McCain's Running Mate

[In2Kermit]

Sarah Palin

[Mus.]

The one with Chuck Norris was better.

[M3R1IN]

wow... unreal... this could really upset the balance...
A female Vice President.. thats cool...
Canada had a female Prime minister once

[Nick Lane]

I woke up this morning at 8 and promptly turned on FOX News (as I do every morning before school) to see if it was announced yet. It had been and I was so excited I could hardly contain it. This was an exceptionally smart pick for several reasons and I will tell you the big one: when Hillary Clinton dropped out of the race a large number of her supporters answered in a poll that they would rather have McCain than Obama. In my opinion, the only chance Barack really had of pulling in those votes would be if he had picked her for his VP (remember she received 18 million votes in the primary and has a large fan base) but he made a bad choice in Biden who has said himself in the past that Obama is not ready to be President. Barack is not experienced enough and picking a very experienced VP like Biden does NOT compensate for that fact. We need an experienced President AND VP, not one or the other. What McCain did today may pull even more of the Hillary supporters to his side of only for the reason that they want a female Vice President. This will probably close the already marginal gap between the two candidates and make for one crazy election. It could truly go either way, and this news today is good news for me and all of America.

[HorseFilms]

The one with Chuck Norris was better.

Chuck Norris would've been a much better choice.

[Nick Lane]

Chuck Norris would've been a much better choice.

"If you don't vote McCain - Norris I will greet you with a round house kick to the face!"

or

"If you elect McCain - Norris we will give those terrorists a round house kick to the face!"

[Sean]

Sarah Palin
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Bza63nnqiKA&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/Bza63nnqiKA&rel=1</a>

[Nick Lane]

Is that supposed to be a bad thing, Sean? Because I don't see an issue.

Oh, and did anyone else catch Fred Thompson's speech at the GOP Convention this evening? Very well done.

[PK]

Is that supposed to be a bad thing, Sean? Because I don't see an issue.

I think Sean was just disappointed to see his Detroit Pistons lose.

[ianh68]

I woke up this morning at 8 and promptly turned on FOX News (as I do every morning before school) to see if it was announced yet. It had been and I was so excited I could hardly contain it. This was an exceptionally smart pick for several reasons and I will tell you the big one: when Hillary Clinton dropped out of the race a large number of her supporters answered in a poll that they would rather have McCain than Obama. In my opinion, the only chance Barack really had of pulling in those votes would be if he had picked her for his VP (remember she received 18 million votes in the primary and has a large fan base) but he made a bad choice in Biden who has said himself in the past that Obama is not ready to be President. Barack is not experienced enough and picking a very experienced VP like Biden does NOT compensate for that fact. We need an experienced President AND VP, not one or the other. What McCain did today may pull even more of the Hillary supporters to his side of only for the reason that they want a female Vice President. This will probably close the already marginal gap between the two candidates and make for one crazy election. It could truly go either way, and this news today is good news for me and all of America.

Presumably PK started this post to get a debate going. I'm not sure if politics has a place in Isara but since we've started, here goes.

1. It is very patronising to Clinton's supporters to suggest they will vote Republican just because there's a female VP, and don't think they can't see through this.
2. Biden said in the past that Obama was (not is) ready to be President. What he's now saying is that he's got to know Obama better.
3. If we need an experienced President AND VP then you can't say that Democrat OR Republican fit the bill.

[Ginafish]

Nick ~I think Sean posted the video to show us Sarah Palin in her sports anchor days.

Ian ~ PK didn't begin this thread.

[lambie83]

Canada had a female Prime minister once

Yeah, Kim Campbell.  For all of like 3 months! Hehe. Kind of sad.

Iceland had a female president for 16 years!  I call that cool.  She kinda looks like one of my college English teachers too.  Weird.

[Sean]

Is that supposed to be a bad thing, Sean? Because I don't see an issue.

Nope, people can take it however they'd like.  I just think its funny, if there is an old Biden from the 80's I'd be glad to post it as well.    

I think Sean was just disappointed to see his Detroit Pistons lose.

LOL , I can't believe I didn't notice that.  Pk always notices the funny little things.  I love it.

[Nick Lane]

Presumably PK started this post to get a debate going. I'm not sure if politics has a place in Isara...

Politics ARE accepted here as we have had many civil discussions in the past.

1. It is very patronizing to Clinton's supporters to suggest they will vote Republican just because there's a female VP, and don't think they can't see through this.

That is bull. Please do not engage in personal or aggravated attacks, this is the place for civil discourse, not argumentative statements. There are a number of Clinton supporters who have said they would prefer McCain to Obama. In fact, a March Gallop poll indicated that more than 1 in 4 would vote that way in the general election. Further, I don't know why you feel the idea is so far fetched, given the fact that several Blacks (including some Republicans) are saying they are ONLY voting for Obama because of his ethnicity. And finally, you act as though a Democrat voting for a Republican is one of the seven deadly sins, but (as Joe Lieberman, a Democrat, said last night at the RNC) it shouldn't matter which party you belong to but who you think will best serve this country.

2. Biden said in the past that Obama was (not is) ready to be President. What he's now saying is that he's got to know Obama better.

That is a typical political back tracking statement. What that means is "I do not think Obama is ready to be President but since he chose me for VP I am going to act like I have reconsidered that." I will place a video below just for kicks.

3. If we need an experienced President AND VP then you can't say that Democrat OR Republican fit the bill.

That is, again, not true. The Republican ticket this year is the only one toting executive experience. John McCain has served this country for many years in several different ways and is VERY fit to be Commander in Chief. Sarah Palin is the Governor of the largest state in the union. Lots of experience there (more at the top, as it should be if it has to be uneven) On the Democratic side you have Barack Obama, a Freshmen Senator from Illinois with plenty of baggage and Joe Biden, a very fit and experienced candidate for VP. The level of experience here is reversed.

There you go.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/RDVUPqoowf8&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/RDVUPqoowf8&rel=1</a>

[PK]

That is bull. Please do not engage in personal or aggravated attacks, this is the place for civil discourse, not argumentative statements.

"That is bull." is far more argumentative than anything Ian said. lol

Actually, I've read Ian's post a few times and it seems very civil. And I agree that both the Republican and Democratic tickets are lacking in experience. But usually only incumbents, and maybe Vice-Presidents, can say they have actual experience leading a country. Anyone else is just embellishing their resume and job history. lol

Fortunately, both Obama and McCain bring something valuable to the table and I strongly believe that, no matter who wins, America will benefit. So, unlike previous elections, this time we can't lose.

[Nick Lane]

"That is bull." is far more argumentative than anything Ian said. lol

I had to level the playing field.

Fortunately, both Obama and McCain bring something valuable to the table...

As hard as it is to believe, I am sure, I actually agree with this. McCain brings years of unwavered service to this great country and Obama brings the ability to read a speech.

[ianh68]

1. It is very patronising to Clinton's supporters to suggest they will vote Republican just because there's a female VP, and don't think they can't see through this.

That is bull. Please do not engage in personal or aggravated attacks, this is the place for civil discourse, not argumentative statements.

The patronising referred to the McCain camp.

[HorseFilms]

I laughed a lot at Palin's speech last night. I see I'm not the only one who spotted the... ahem... non truths:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...p_on_el_pr/cvn_fact_check

[ZeroG]

Here is a funny Palin parody...

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/qEW12XLUM7A&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/qEW12XLUM7A&rel=1</a>

[Sean]

That girls pretty good

Does anyone remember Bobby's World.   ("Bobby Dontcha Know") Palin sounds just like  the mothers voice.  Someone should check the passport, I think she might be Canadian.  No offence Wes.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/w5eDlwcm95I&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/w5eDlwcm95I&rel=1</a>

[Nick Lane]

The patronising referred to the McCain camp.

Then I retract the comment and issue my apologies for the misunderstanding.

Oh, and a lot of those "non-truths" can go both ways. Besides, any politician stretches the truth. But, one note concerning Obama and taxes, it is true that he won't tax the "little people" but he is going to raise taxes extensivelyt for businesses which will in turn raise prices for their goods making the "little people" pay more and not be able to purchase as much as they used to be able to. That will only further weaken out economy.



Funny parody, by the way. And, the reason she has an accent is because she lives on the border of CANADA.

[HorseFilms]

Nick, the only reason that you still believe in trickle down economics is that you still live with your parents. Trust me, man. When I was your age, I was a right-wing fanatic, too. I didn't understand how much my parents shielded me from the horrors of the Reagan/Bush years until I actually had to fend for myself.

That's when I saw how much better life was during the Clinton years and watched it all crumble after Bush II took office.

You don't have enough life experience to see the trends and how they can really change the economy.

I'm not saying this to rip on you, man. I just know how I was at your age and I know that you'll eventually grow out of this if you're as smart as I think you are.

[Nick Lane]

Horse, (if I can call you that ) I appreciate the kind words, I do, but just because I am young does not mean I don't know anything. It is very simple: if a company that makes aluminum raises the price of the metal, Coca Cola has to pay more for it to make the cans and thus we have to pay more for our soda. That is how it works. It is true that I have not experienced a lot of this is my own life but I have talked to countless people who know what they are saying.

I am able to look at both sides, I just choose to call myself a Republican. Believe me, there are times I differ from the base, but for the most part this is what I believe. I am not too proud to admit when Democrats get things right or when we get things wrong, but I am smart enough to consider the source of each bit of information I take in and make a decision based on that. However, I doubt I will ever grow any closer to the left than I already am (which isn't very close at all, admittedly).

That being said I do not fall victim to partisan politics. I will not agree with someone based solely on the fact that he or she is a Conservative. I am an American before anything else and that is what matters most; what is best for me, my family and my country. I can look at the two tickets we have now and say, honestly, that John McCain is clearly the best pick for this election. We are in the middle of a war and we need someone who understands that and can make competent decisions concerning the fact. Obama spent some time in a foreign country as a child, McCain has served our country at home and abroad since he was 17 years old. The choice is clear to me, as with most political issues.

[Mus.]

I'm just wondering how the terrorists would react if the country they're fighting was being lead by a man with muslims in his family.

[thartley]

Sarah Palin is a great choice, in my opinion, for McCain and I look forward to seeing them in the Whitehouse.     I don't profess to be a political debater, but I will say that the McCain-Palin combination is one I believe can and will do what is necessary because their record has shown me that is what they are about. 

If I am putting my life, safety and well-being and those of my family in the political hands of someone, it will be in the hands of someone who knows how to fly the plane and steer the ship because its what he's spent his whole life doing, if imperfectly.  McCain has a genuine love for the country and people he will be serving, and I count myself among them. 

That's not to say that Obama will not make an outstanding candidate someday, but he just isnt there yet.  That's just my opinion.  He needs a little more seasoning, more time in, more time in the deep end of the ocean.  No doubt he is going to get it one way or another, whichever way this election turns out.  I simply want to see more performance from him than what we have to gauge his abilities today, before he is politically responsible for my heart and home.