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Twilight by Stephenie Meyer and the Movies

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    December 17, 2008 7:25 AM PST
    Yes, I am surprised at how quickly the release date is following the first.  :)  But they have a different director attached this time around.

    New Moon...sounds interesting but less relevant for vampires.  Maybe they will work in the werewolf folk in this one.  Anyone who read the books care to support this idea?
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    December 26, 2008 9:10 PM PST
    This is just an extension of Anne Rice, and she ruined vampires. They should be tough and nasty, not metrosexuals.
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    December 27, 2008 11:16 AM PST
    Well, I do remember, being such a wee thing back then *cough* *cough* reading Anne Rice's Interview series and thinking on some level that this was the first time a "monster" had been humanized in any way for me.  And I enjoyed the book.  Until Interview, vampires were more or less zombies with the ability to reason, special powers, and a discriminating pallet.  :D  Renfro was far creepier to me.

    I'm also a big Angel and Buffy fan, so it stands to reason that I would like Twilight, but it was wholly disappointing to me.  Casting, story, direction.....it felt like a film version of the cliff notes somehow.
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    April 5, 2009 3:57 AM PDT
    I just saw this movie on DVD and I was pleasantly surprised. It was a movie the entire family could see, which is rare these days. Yes, it was not your typical vampire portrayal, but I felt they did a somewhat good job of making their existance believable. I didn't read the book, but I can see how it was so likable, especially by the high school crowds. I guess I lowered my expectations to the 'Friday the 13th' level because of that, but it was really a good story and well done. Some really good acting too.

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    April 5, 2009 4:29 AM PDT
    I also watched this movie with ZeroG and the family and enjoyed it.  I can see why it's so popular with the younger kids.  I especially loved the part when Edward took Bella and flew her high into the trees.  :D
    It was noted during the film where the author made a cameo appearance.  :)
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    April 5, 2009 8:20 AM PDT
    I'm glad to hear you all liked it.  A couple other adult friends of mine watched it and said it was okay.

    I guess I am more of a Robert Rodriguez/Quentin Tarantino From Dusk Till Dawn type of vampire movie lover.  ;D 
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    April 8, 2009 12:37 PM PDT
    I ventured to read the books after several of my co-workers raved about the books; this was after the movie came out.  I was very drawn in by the story and characters.  I know these are not your usual vampires but why is it necessary to do the same-old story; I like the author's imagination.  She comes up with something totally different than anything before; she admits to being very unaware of vampire lore until she writes about Bella researching to discover if she is correct in her assumptions about the Cullen family.  I think people can be very creative when they don't know what they are "supposed" to be thinking.

    I really enjoyed the movie; although, as usual too much is left out.  The characters are much more interesting in the books.  I have read the first half of "Midnight Sun" (posted on the author's site) and reading the story from Edward's point of view is very interesting.  I do hope the author will finish the book.
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    November 20, 2009 8:53 AM PST
    The twilight 2 or New moon!
    Last night Party, Bell, Nok, my friend Lek and I went to see New moon. It wasn't really anything. What I remember is that Edward took off his shirt a little bit and last sentence he said was
    "will you marry me?" which is made all the girls think that he was asking them...including me. ;D
    So after the movie I told my friend Lek that I'm gonna dream about Edward tonight and her reply was "then you will see me too" :D
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    November 20, 2009 1:29 PM PST
    I've got tickets for Saturday! Can't wait! I'll be telling my hubby, "hey, wolf boy wouldn't leave his underwear on the floor"... :D
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    November 20, 2009 3:11 PM PST
    Ginafish said:
    I've got tickets for Saturday! Can't wait! I'll be telling my hubby, "hey, wolf boy wouldn't leave his underwear on the floor"... :D
    Maybe not his underwear . . . but . . . you never know with werewolves. :D
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    November 20, 2009 4:11 PM PST
    Just someone please tell me if the werewolf people actually transformed from human to werebeast?  Because frankly, the vampires without pointy teeth were an issue for me in the first movie. And their body glitter.  And the fact that sunlight didnt hurt them.  And given immortality, the chose to stay perpetually in highschool. LOL! ;D 
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    November 20, 2009 5:10 PM PST
    thartley said:
    Just someone please tell me if the werewolf people actually transformed from human to werebeast?  Because frankly, the vampires without pointy teeth were an issue for me in the first movie. And their body glitter.  And the fact that sunlight didnt hurt them.  And given immortality, the chose to stay perpetually in highschool. LOL! ;D 
    I have to confess -- haven't read the books nor saw the first movie . . . daughter, daughter-in-law, mother, sisters, and nieces have all read the books and seen the first movie (several times) and daughter-in-law is all excited to be seeing the 2nd one tonight.  I'm with T - body glitter and lack of pointy teeth would put me off the story . . . ;)
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    November 21, 2009 1:55 AM PST
    Gina: As long as you are with wolf not Edward then you and I are ok. :D

    Thartly: body glitter b/c they are the special vampires.
    They don't eat human blood and for the same reason that they have lack of pointy teeth. I don't really care about those b/c every time I see Edward(in the movie) my heart is always melted. ;D

    majinjc: If all the girl members in your family have that kind of feeling then it's normal cause even they have only Edward, the tickets will all sell out to the girls.
    He is like a fancy guys for every girls even though we know it wasn't real. hahaha any way it's no point to watch the movie if you don't want to just get in to the dream world. :)
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    November 26, 2009 7:57 PM PST
    I caved and decided I would consider going to see this movie, but I want to wait until I can use my free ticket to see it, and right now, its still under a "No Passes" period.  In the meantime, I thought I would check the book out from the library and read to see what all the hullaballoo is about.  Do you know there are 154 copies of Twilight (I was gonna start at the beginning) and ALL of them are checked out?

    I'm glad people are reading. But c'mon... 154 copies? LOL!
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    November 27, 2009 8:18 AM PST
    We must be on the same wavelength.  I'm watching the first one right now - Jacy had a copy (I think I bought it for her.  She has the books, too.).  Then, if it seems worth it, I'll see the next one and start reading the books.  Ask your daughter - I bet she or a friend has all the books! :D
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    November 28, 2009 7:36 PM PST

    Ok, I found someone who let me borrow the first book in this series.  (And seriously, we don't already have a thread going for these books?)  I know Ginafish has already read the whole published series, and Majinjc has talked about reading them.  I'm starting the first book this evening and figured a thread wouldn't be a bad idea. So....if anyone else has read them, feel free to post.  Just give a warning before spoilers so I can avert my eyes.   ;D
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    November 28, 2009 8:42 PM PST
    Okay, okay - I'll start the first one tomorrow - I have another book to finish tonight! ;D
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    November 29, 2009 4:19 AM PST
    I read your review of the first movie again and you paid attention very well. :) The interesting thing about reading the books is that you realize what a bad actress Kristen is b/c you feel the range of Bella's emotions in the book that you just don't watching the movies. After you read Twilight, I suggest you go ahead and read Midnight Sun on the author's website. :)
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    November 29, 2009 6:27 AM PST
    I will do that!  Midnight Sun will give us the same story from a different perspective, right? I love that idea. And might use it myself.  :D
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    December 2, 2009 7:23 PM PST
    OOOKAY.  Twilight.  The book.  To me, it read like 400+ pages of Buffy/Angel|Buffy/Spike fan fiction.  (It is a gross understatement to say I am a huge fan of the Buffy-Angel universe, traveled non-stop to LA on a worknight to meet James Marsters who played Spike at a concert and meet n' greet and was only a couple hours late for the work the next day...in Florida) Angel (in the Whedonverse) swears off human blood feeding only on animal blood, hates the monster that he has become, devotes his existence to trying to be a better man, falls in love with a human girl who seems too good and pure to ever feel love for or trust in him.  Except for Buffy being a Slayer, it sounds real familiar here.  At one point, Edward is even mentioned as being "a vampire angel".

    BUT, really, Twilight made me feel like the author had a few key phrases macro'd into her system.  She referenced Edward's eyes sooooo many times that I literally (no pun intended) began to picture him as a set of eyeballs and nothing more.

    There is a really cool story here to be told, but there needed (for me) to be more story and less swooning and brooding and glaring and staring and heart pounding and shuddering.  I do still have a bit of a problem with the whole body-glittering vampire thing...but I can get past that in consideration of the story here.  To me, they may be some sort of mutated vampire.  That I can buy.  The story of Bella and Forks and the Cullens and how Bella and Edward come to care about each other is a great storyline, but the meat to me is the chase/hunt, when James (the tracker) is hunting Bella and all the characters come into play in that drama.  THAT'S a good story crisis and marks the turning point in the bigger picture.  Where are the lines of allegiances drawn?  Who can be trusted to protect that most treasured object of Edward's affection?  The Bella/Edward love story could be a very strong secondary plot point, serving to drive the whole momentum of the chase.  :D 

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    Midnight Sun is Twilight from Edward's perspective and for me, this was a much stronger story (even though, technically, its the SAME story---we get the background on the Cullens Clan and see sides to them and their family/clan dynamic that is barely hinted at in Twilight).  It initially reads in a more mature voice, as it should I suppose coming from an 80 year-old highschool junior.  ;)  This story is posted in partial draft form on the author's website, the completion postponed due to a HUMONGOUS copyright infringement.  I can't even imagine how sick Ms. Meyer must have felt when this draft was circulated out on the web.  Makes me wonder how the Potter books have managed to stay under wraps as well as they have been all these years as they were being written.  Anyway, loved Midnight Sun, right up until it headed into the same "She loves me, she loves me not" territory.  But even so, the cartoonish eyeballs of Twilight were finally given a fleshed out, full bodied character here in Edward and I found myself hoping HOPING a certain scene would make it into this draft, but it didnt. haha! Bella remains sort of generic and vanilla and plain and non-descript, except to find out she has a heart-shaped face. How sweet.  :)  And I'm beginning to think there HAS to be a medical reason for her clumsiness beyond just the awkwardness of puberty, maybe some severe vertigo, some malformation of her inner ear.  :D



    And, I suppose, I will read the next books in time.  I'm on the beggars cant be choosers waiting list of friends and acquaintances.  Again.  LOL!
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    December 3, 2009 6:20 AM PST
    I don't know what to say - I seem to be having some Freudian aversion to the whole thing -- I can't even make it down the hall to Jacy's room to borrow the set . . .

    I did watch the first movie over Thanksgiving break, hoping it would peak my interest, but it did nothing for me (except make me feel old) . . . and I'm a scifi/fantasy/vampire book fanatic!!!
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    December 3, 2009 6:44 AM PST
    I didn't read any of the books until after I watched "New Moon" at the theater. :) My first thought about the books were that the teenagers were all crazy.

    Now I wish someone had written the books a little more with an adult tone. *wink, wink*
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    December 4, 2009 3:57 AM PST
    Hehe, I don't really mind the glittery vampire theme. When I read the Anne Rice vampire novels many many years ago, she stressed that the older the vampire, the more 'granite' like their bodies became. Granite in light colors has a glitter quality to it.

    What did you think of New Moon? And the wolves?
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    December 3, 2009 7:19 PM PST
    Ginafish said:
    Now I wish someone had written the books a little more with an adult tone. *wink, wink*
    Apparently, for the most part, the adult females who have read the books seem to be just fine with them. LOL!  I used my free movie ticket (Regal Club Card Reward) to see New Moon tonight.  I got up to go to the ladies' room and once in the hallway, I heard a woman running behind me and she suddenly screamed "HURRY!"  She liked to have scared me half to DEATH!  Turns out she also had to use the facilities and she was tremendously stressed about missing "the best part".  It was near the end in New Moon, what I call "Ming's favorite part" when Edward sheds his shirt to walk out into the sunlight. LOL! 
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    December 5, 2009 5:21 AM PST
    :o Yes, T. this clip explains it all!  One girl, in the scene you mentioned said "He took of his shirt" and all the girls screamed! 
    I saw Twilight with my grandkids a while back, so I know the beginning interaction between Bella and Jake.  This scene she sees him, as you said, in a whole new way.